Sadly, this reminds me of the Millenium Cat. As gorgeous as those textures were, I never could afford them. Thank God Lyne from Vista Internet Products generously gave the community a beautiful cat texture later for free. I think that DAZ should always include at least a base texture set with models. That way, the model is useable from the start. Buying a model that can't be used until you find extra money for the textures or make textures yourself really only works with stuff like PhilC's excellent line of "almost free" products. When you're paying $1.99, the lack of textures is not a problem!! When you're paying $15 or $20 or more, it is. After almost four years of using Poser, I admit I am getting a lot more choosey about what I buy. Being beautiful is no longer enough. Usefulness and value are now important considerations for me too. Kimberly