Oh wait a minute I must be in the wrong forum? No, no I am pretty sure this is the Bryce forum! Ah ha Blasphemer! Be gone! Terragen! GrrrOh I cant keep this up U can stay. Some of the things in Gen are good (what you mentioned) but seeing how Bryce may never get another update it may be surpassed? I find the Bryce interface to be the easiest and most intuitive I have ever used. I found Terragen more difficult to use. I wish I could find one that is similar to Bryce! Vile starts taking his shoes off But now you better start running! and you know I will do it ;)