BTW - I understand custom MTs difficulty regarding clothing. That is kinda part of the beauty though, this is why I've always been very concerned over getting as many MTs into a well adjusted Mil' Man Version. Then when I'm satisfied I can add "An Outfit.." to A..Mil' Man. This is how I played it with M2 anyhows. He's a half naked Angel character, but he's been beatifully sculpted from many fine MTs! I kinda base my experience as a 3D artist this way. With M2 only so old, I'm still proud to say this is how I would prefer to continue doing it! My only real drawback is in having versions of characters, with beatiful meshes, that have a different vertex count, because then the MTs wo'nt transfer, you then have to start over, and make do on your own. I'll bring an image of my M2 MOR, next time I come. I'll then post a .zip of the .pz3/2 for whoever wants it! = )