Thanks a lot FyreSpiryte, that looks like the way to go then :( bit of a pain installing 2 files for each 1, now I know why I get loads of double entries for things now... xxx P4, xxx P5 or xxx PP . That looks like the only reasonable option then without asking the user to edit the cr2 :( .. or to do what igohigh (thanks) does. Igohigh, it sounds like maintaining your runtime/s is a full time occupation ? cant you just buy a new hard disk ? Personally Im trying to keep seperate runtimes, so I can offload stuff to archive CD's when/if it reaches 500MB or more , maybe one for props etc .. then when I need to get something, just pop in the CD and pull off the item. Of course its not as fast as HD, but overall its got to be more time economical than your constant updating of files ? .. Best wishes, Barrie. And THANKS EVERYONE!!!!!! for their help, I can put my top in freestuff now , and maybe publish some material poses next..