AdAware has a new update incase anyone is interested. and striving I'm right behind the NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, calls. it is a big nono unless you know exactly what you are doing. I discovered a new guest user on my brothers puter last night. He had known nothing about it and didn't even know it was a possibility for anyone to hack in and open a user account. Thankfully his admin account is protected by password so they didn't get into the core system. It's just one more thing to check on and you all should just in case. MurkySoft have released a patch for this which came out last week. 8) Catlin