I hadn't heard about Epson actually replacing printers. Was that on rec.photo.digital? I've never been able to duplicate the orange shift problem. Supposedly, it only affects prints dried in high ozone, and I'm pretty much ozone free. You're right about alternate papers, some are really beautiful, although longevity data isn't availiable. I like Arches cold pressed, and usually cut my own down from watercolor sizes. Osprey Giclee is becoming a favorite of mine. I've never been a Luminos fan. Sommerset Velvet is curiously compelling. Ciao! Joe