timefighter is just learning HTML and needs to exercise a little before he can work in the backroom. Be a little patient. BTW our backrooms links are as accurate as possible when I send a member to search for tutorials or free modelers or... But I'm not perfect and have not always the time to make changes immediately, as already said. When my short answers seems a little harsch this may be that I'm really out of time and have lots of work to do (I also have a regular work) and the above answer for where to find the running challenge did not need a long answer :-) Guitta