I never much liked Posette. I have no idea where to DL Posette 2003; if I did, I might give her a try. But I have a feeling I wouldn't find her as much fun to play with as V3 and M3. I don't "get" Koshini, Neftoon Gal, Alexa, etc., either. DAZ gave me Sara for free, and I've yet to even install her. (I never liked playing with Barbie dolls when I was a kid, either.) I want a mesh that can give me a recognizable likeness. I want MORE dials, not fewer. (And I'm willing to pay for 'em, in anyone wants to market a package... ;-) One thing I like about Judy and Don that I wish DAZ would copy: the way the dials are grouped into collapsible "folders." That makes finding the dial you want so much easier!