I was at the front of the queue to buy Poser5 & I loved using it. Yes that's right I LOVED using it, recently I've had to go back to poser4 as I really need the speed & stability that it has over Poser5, I'm missing the brilliant runtimes tho. If D|S can do what poser5 can without all the crashes I'm there simple as. grypho the biggest bug they've recently found is the xmas bug, no-one could seriously think they'd release D|S this close to xmas did they? we're looking at early to middle January at the earliest. They've spent the last 6 months since announcing it squashing bugs & testing it, looking at the pictures they released back then & since you can see the program was ready except for bug squashing & testing. I'm glad they didn't do a CL & release it 6 months ago.