Hi Thalaxis I belong to a kind of cooperative of writers/concept artists/3d modellers, and our original intention was to make online games. We experimented with 3DGS, considering doing screenshot walk-thrus a bit like the original Myst. Then we looked at Wild Tangent, but at the time it was hard to figure out what it would cost, and it seemed complicated. We finally settled on Atmosphere. It's been beta up until now, version 1 has just been released. I think it's going to be a great program, if people bear 56k users in mind - if you're used to broadband it's hard to remember that not everyone can download 6MB just for curiosity. But it's possible to make any kind of game for online playing with it (I think). It will probably take a bit of time for it to settle completely, but it's got Adobe behind it. We feel it's going to be the one that becomes the standard, for all sorts of reasons - though Strata3d looks very good as well. Also I've seen nice stuff done in Director, but who can afford that :( Also, the movement was a bit sea-sickish in both Strata and Director compared to Atmosphere. Atmosphere is hooked up in some way with Viewpoint, which is a great technology, usually you have to pay a license, but not for use in ATmosphere. Whew!