"Poser has not had a substantial improvement in years". Come on! The features in ProPack and P5 alone should have been versions P5 P6 and P7. You know as well as I do that if CL spent all the money on recoding there would have been no money to put in new features. "Then what? Re-release Poser 4 so all the people who owned it before could buy it again"? "No... They should give it away". "Uh... and they stay in business how? They can't release anything new if they aren't in business". "Uh... My amp goes up to 11... You know, so it's louder". "Well... Why not just make 10 louder"? "Uh... My amp goes up to 11". LOL... I love Spinal Tap Joe