Well, I'm not going to let this ruin my experiences on Renderosity. As far as I'm concerned they are a fine group here and I appreciate all the hard work they do. I'm also saddened when I read all the posts here to the contrary. It seems that some people have a hankerin'(I'm from the Ozarks y'know-wink)to just complain and don't know when to quit. I sincerely appreciate all my internet connections whether it be my ISP,website hosting company and others who work as hard to provide me with an enjoyable internet experience to the best of their ability. ~getting off soapbox now with my final post on the subject~ Many blessings to you all, Helen