lhiannan, Here's one thing you might like for future use. Swamp posted a tip which he calls 'Quick Fix'. After he installs poser, he makes 'clean' copies of the files in the main poser folder - the .exe, .rsr, etc (not the readme files) and stores the copies in a QFix folder. When his poser acts funny, he simply uses the copies to over-write the originals and poser goes back to work again. One other thing I learned is to make the main Poser.rsr a read-only file. Whenever poser crashes, it can easily corrupt that file. If it's read-only, crashes can't affect it. Oh, and any temp files that poser makes after a crash should immediately be deleted too. mac