oh..I didn't throw in the 2d stuff, I'm still hazy in the DTE lab..well, considering all the good free ones out there, it's not really motivational to make your own, though I have some ideas..;) Don't have the database with me, but Mayang is good, so is LEMOG, Textures (a czech place), grsites, textures by tuesday, and others..

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)