Well, i didn't get P5. So, i'm clueless as to what i would think of it. I work a lot in AutoCAD, MAX & C4D. All very stable apps that do exactly what they advertise. I just use Poser to "pose". LOL Me thinks that maybe they tried to make Poser into something more then what it's been since it's first version: a tool to aid artists like the "Wooden Dummy". ;-) So, my 'wishlist' is simple: Keep Poser simple, Fast & efficient at posing & animating characters. FishNose, you made my day with those Jokes... :-) Well, back to counting polygons. Marco