Don't worry tjohn, I did not take it as a putdown. What you said about Bryce's modelling capabilites is more accurate than what I said. My statement needed to be corrected and after one look at the artists mentioned by you and orbital, there is no doubt that I spoke out of place. I seem to do that sometimes, that darn brain of mine just does not seem to pay much as much attention to me as it did when I was younger. :-) take care, BabaLouie