Rattler Have you actually used P5???? Propack has no materials room dynamic hair dynamic clothes Ray tracing renderer need I go on.. It takes a while and some application to use the beast and it it not perfect but much much better than poser 4 It's no good saying "I cant use the dynamic stuff" and blaming it on the program all the above works fine on my machine all that happens when you use a faster machine is the dynamics work faster. My previous machine (AMD 1.2GHz) worked fine. I pulled the entire program folder(runtimes et all) over to my new machine(Intel 2.6 HT) over the network with no problem. I had to re-install poser 4 - which I have used once - to use the cursed morph injections for V3 that all , after P5 p4 is a toy It just depends if you have the patience to learn how dynamics work, I have and snort derisively at people who can't or won't - and blame the program. Texture mape -= been using 4096 pixel maps for these many years. I've seen poser grow up from poser 1 to 5 and every last one is a learning curve. I have my P5 working just fine, I look forward to P6 - and I will make sure that I read the manuals, and tutorials that other users put up. and continue enjoying doing things. back to lurking