heyas; er... i'm afraid not :/ i read that... and that's why i plugged the obj into the horse's cr2, to get all the centers exactly the same. i still had to move the hip centers down from where they were, and that got the piece to sit vertically correct. but anyway, the point is, i can't make the centers more matched, because... they're all exact copies to start with. :/ maybe i need to put the endpoint up in the tail or something... but i don't want to start messing with the jps and making things worse. ::sigh::