First i say Hi :-) Great discussion :-) bad that my English is to small to understand it all But what i see here on Renderosity there are not so much images one PP work :-) Okay a few *LOL As i have a very nice fractal pattern create and it has a few flying pixels yes i delete clean it for the best result Maybe you can say then its PP However i am agree on all people that use a manner to come to the best result but like it also to see a little line in the context from the upload I have ones work hours and hours to try to make a effect in FE that i saw from a artist no succes it all I ask him how in the world he has found it :-) I think you know his answer :-)) Hope you understand what i try to say Excuse for my bad English ciao Arend (Fractelaar)