ok... once I wade through the corporate blurb in that.. yes that does answer my question, but brings into mind why we need this subs area... the mag was good in a printed form, since as most ppl don't have a dual monitor setup as I do, having a hard copy is very handy. but having an online form of the same info I can get for free? that makes the idea of buying a sub very iffy. (as for online content, since I hardly use vickclone or mikeclone, freebies for those have very limited use for me, and judging by the use of those figures round here, well.. (I come mainly for the trueSpace forum and tech help on poser. and the rare non-vick/mike item that pops up))