Thanks for the replys all.. (Very nice models Moe) I suspect when I will take the model the buttons approach on my projects, and worry about texturing them when I get that far, modelling being where I'm currently at texturing, next on my learning list when I have something to texture. Never did like flat panel controls - I keep imagining a star trek episode where an alien crewmember has to take over and hits the wrong button due to fingerprint smudges (or coffee stains ;) )