hmm well I'm not attacking the work thats been done, I am merely queationing why we need this? we have the forums. the tutorial section. the freebie section. there was a reason for the paper magazine, but for a paid for subs area on a site that already offers so much? logically why is it needed? it's not... sorry to pull logic on this, but with all the problems this site has had with it's infrastructure, adding more and more complexity is well.. stupid. Dee-Marie? I'm sorry, but with the policy of not paying for content work, I have to refuse any approach me for content. if you go ahead with this illogical subs area and start paying for work then I would be interested. at this time tho.. I see no point when I can give the information for free in the forums and be free to take my work anywhere. being bound to a contract for no payment? no. a contract and being paid? yup. well I'm bowing out of this thread now.. to me it's a illogical idea which should be dropped.. but I know it won't be.. and another mistake is made...