I'm always interested in seeing other peoples work Frenchtoast, but it's not something you need to do if it's going to be a lot of work for you... Moe : I do intend to post once I get something done - doing tutorials in max & lightwave (already eliminated most others) to see which works best for me...then a longer project which will involve panelling (probably a mech) Since I'm only looking at hobbyist approach - not job or study - I'm going to try and be as 'detailed' & all modelled as I can (might resort to the 'only what you see (closer to cam)' modelling theory depending on how well my compie holds up with trying to do high detail... :)