S3 buttocks and groin are finally improved however. V3 had similar buttock issues as her predecessor V1/2. I've posted a lot of renders at PoserPros illustrating the improved bendability of the thigh area. http://www.poserpros.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20975 I think comparing Steph Petite to a vast collection of Jim Burton characters is slightly unfair. Put her up against a stock V3 instead, like I have. And yes, the proportions of the characters are very different, S3 is not just a small V3, she's actually reproportioned and stands about 6.5 heads tall, as opposed to V3 who is nearly 8 heads high. Jim's characters are nice, but they are also supermodel/fashion doll proportions too. Fine if you like that kind of thing... its not my taste. Stephanie Petite works very well for me, and fixes the one thing (buttocks, groin) that has nagged me for years with Vicky. Average women are between 6-7 heads high, 8 heads is supermodel/heroine proportions. go here if you want to learn something about proportion. http://www2.evansville.edu/drawinglab/body.html