ming is right... but then again, D|S is still in the teething stages, and everybody learned from the 'who cares if it don't work - let's ship it anyway!' debacle that was Poser 5. They had to pick a small enough group to keep up with the public testing, so the Plat Club got picked. Trust me... there are days when I wish I could just wait for the finished item and not deal with the debugs :) /P