Another better poser? smile Ahhh, such would be the luck huh? Daz couldn't and can't make a "poser" they'd get themselves into a nightmarish situation with Curious Labs that could well bankrupt both companies. So they've take the idea - which is not protected - and made an application that they feel better reflects the needs of users for character manipulation. Max has the same thing with Humanoid and Biped and whatever other plugin is available. Lightwave has things like Messiah and then there's other programs like Antic3D, Crowd and half a dozen more than are "poserish" in as much as they allow the manipulation of "characters". Each one is very different to the other and that's going to be the case with Poser and Studio. I don't disagree with you that people will probably adopt both and use both. But like with rendering. Only a relatively few people render exclusively in Poser. Same with Studio. There will be people who'll continue to use Poser because of functions it possesses (like the cloth and face room etc) and use Studio for other things. There will be people like me who's only contact with Poser is posing a character, and everything else is done in another application. Studio as such won't cause a split in the "community" (whatever that is) because there's no reason to split it. There's no war being fought for supremacy here. Poser has integrated various tools. Studio has followed the more popular route of plugin integration. This makes it more configurable for the users who will buy only what they need, whereas with Poser they may well get tools they don't need. For instance, in my view Poser 5 is almost useless. It offers no improvements to the interface, to the boning or creation of characters, it offers nothing in the workflow that I don't already get (faster) with Poser 4. Hair, cloth, renderer etc I already get far better from Cinema. So it offers me nothing. For a great many people though it is an answer to a lot of problems. They get the built in integration of tools they could not otherwise afford. I don't think you need to worry at all about Poser losing popularity, nor the Poser forum dying out or any other such scenario because there are advantages to all and every application available and Poser, while still suffering problems, is unique in some of the things it offers - such as character manipulation. It would take me a considerable amount of work to bone a figure for C4D, Poser already has them, in spades. So... what's easier? :D This is one of the reasons I think that keeping the two forums seperate is a good idea. Not because I hate one or the other company, that's irrelevant, but because they're both very different programs.