There's lots of "not there" things in Poser 5 Anton, and with all the other foibles (too many to list here) it's one of the most scream inducing applications I know of, but that doesn't invalidate it; just makes it... different. With all the connotations of that word. Without Poser there is no poser userbase and without integration of Poser the userbase will not translate to Shade - it's a good app, very good but... well, it's harder to learn than Poser, a lot harder and I think we both know very well where "learning" stands in Poserdom. :) So, the owners of Shade want the transit routes, the entry visa and work permits and other facilities that Poser (Curious Labs) offers. I don't think they'll drop it too fast. Not because of some little forum hidden somewhere on the planet surface or from any sense of decency towards the poor users who have been mistreated all these years, but because of things that Poser has to offer (with decent coding and some creative repair work). So the future of Poser, while still very much up in the air is also somewhat brighter than it was a few weeks ago left to the auspices of half a dozen box packers in the CL office. My own volatile opinion isn't suitable for this thread but even I can see a "chance" for poser here. Studio isn't the new Messiah, won't be for a while yet. It's promising that's for sure and as soon as I can get my grubby little paws on it I'll play with it too. If it increases the work flow for what I do then great, Poser can take a flying F*** at a rolling donut. I'm completely mercenary in that respect. Meanwhile, it's not in my paws and at the moment (alpha) isn't likely to improve my workflow. Besides. It's Daz. They're just like Curious Labs in some ways. Release item, three service packs, done. It applies to their figures so why not their software? The existence of Studio doesn't invalidate nor destroy the existence of Poser. Price is different (free) but we've yet to see pricing schedules for the plugins which might make all the difference for certain users. There's more than enough room around here for two competing applications and with the current userbase I don't see the death of Poser for at least 18 months, if at all.