/(I think I'm a Saran-wrap member, but I might upgrade to cardboard..;)/ ROTFLMAO That was real cute, :) - the rumors I have heard / read was that DS would be a free app, while the plugins would be a reasonably priced purchase. Of course one knows how rumors are. Obviously there is a hugh potential for DAZ to expand their market via this method, imagine in a few years that DS, as it matures, might well replace Poser and, the content would continue to come from DAZ. I have been playing with DS today, and it seems to have great potential, of course it is a bit buggy and many folks seem to be having some sort of problem, I don't believe that any of the problems appear to be major at this point so perhaps they will be quickly fixed and a release made available for the rest of the 'family'. BabaLouie