I don't think anyone was necessarily ridiculing you. It was honest and helpful advice. If you want people to visit your site, you need to make it as easy to use and as inviting as possible, or people will simply leave. That's the truest statement ever made about general web design. Make the visitor uncomfortable, confuse them, annoy them, etc., they won't stay to see what you want them to see. shrug You did ask how to get people to visit your site... ;-) bonni

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