Ratteler one could say that by creating a new file format Daz is attempting to corner a market . DS as you point out, has changed the user interface. It is however a still a basic posing tool. no plugins. No cloth. No materials. I have been around enough to know that what is in alpha releases (and tends to have the wow factor) is not what ends up in the final release .I still want to know how long would all of the content that I want (hair, materials and cloth etc)- that makes me use Poser 5- how long and how much will those modules take to come on line. File formats. Do you think that Daz would be unwise enough to essentially cut off one of their prime means of income by refusing to release anything they have on offer in the new file(how big are these new files going to be if it"will include everything in the scene"? err lets see My v3 with morphs and a decent texture is what 118,243Kb mike 3 same(ish)so how big are these files going to be? Just the figures will be larger than one of my PZ3 folders Hmmm.... now surely The Shade people are not stupid , they know what went on with Poser 5 (I think the bottom line is that CL ran out of money and HAD to release something that they knew was clunky)they will be looking at a merging of their products- if they are wise they will be looking at the release of DL and seeing what is good and bad with the product. They will have plenty of time to see the state of play and what people really want. They are after all a Software house not a content provider trying to be a software house. They have shade - a very good product. will they want to rewrite the core of poser - yes of course they will - and they have the experience to do so. Will they include OpenGL yes because they have to to give the target purchasers what they want, will they put in something to read daz files course they will - and Daz will give it to them if it means more content will be sold. Because you see by then, DL will be old news and Poser 6 will be the new kid on the block ;-) What will Daz do then? There is an old chinese curse"may you live in interesting times" - its getting more interesting day by day!