yeah, we should all tell him there are other sites for that kind of thing. g Women with big guns trouncing through the water usually have their clothes on... Lara Croft be damned... lol. Jody, its a nice pic and a dynamic pose, and I bet if that girl had her clothes off she'd be damn cute to some of these old guys too g But that's not the thrust of the picture... and its wrong to assert a pic is 'ugly' just because the girl might not be sexually arousing in that particular picture. It is not the picture's intent after all. It would look stupid as hell if the girl was a bombshell model bouncing around seminaked with perfect hair trouncing with a big ol gun through the water. (wait... did I just describe much of the Renderosity gallery... lol!) Even Jessica Lynch didn't look all that hot from her enlistment pictures. On the skinny side with a long geeky neck. Her face is very plain until you put some makeup on her. She's just cute to most old eyes because she's 19 years young. Supermodel or centerfold spread she's not, she's more like the woman in this render.