'And have you looked at a .daz file? Nothing to see!' Yep! Sure have. It's binary. But, so what? I don't read any sinister motives into that. Suppose DAZ had wanted to use cr2/pz3 formats? Have you any idea what that might cost them? I see the fact that they have a native format as a workround, not a plot to take over the galaxy. If they develop it in future.... well, that's only a logical progression that comes from having one in the first place. Maybe they just decided that it was easier and cheaper to develop their own, and that while doing so, they could make it something that was based in the 21st century, not the last one. ernyoka, Lucky you! I can't get any customGeom prop to load without a huge string of errors. I must try again, although I did try about 20 different props. mac