xmas too!! well, those are definately different eyes, kind of hard to get used to when you've been using the regular doaeyes for as long as I've been doing it... but they certainly look good... I would also wait for an eyeprop before you start making hundreds of mat files... why don't you start posting your requirements and then we'll see who could do it... keep up the good work... I hope stephanie 3.0 shares the eye texture of v3 and M3... I'll let you know as soon as I have it.