biggert-I'm missing something here ? What exactly are 'apologies' for and what new times are you refering to ? Women have always been 'into crap most men obsess on, perhaps just quieter about it. It's easier for us as we can just look in a mirror to see what gravity and age might do........and then ignore it anyway. Bijouchat- Thanks ! I'll probably take you up on that. It was a Xmas present and I've only just cracked it open.

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