hmm, not sure about that list.. you're talking about "LIris, Lcornea", etc?? I was now thinking that doing smart props for the eyes would be tricky, because not all models height is the same... I tried it the other day, but the best I can get is a simple ball textured with one of your eyes, but I don't know how to make separate corneas, irises, pupils, etc... well, your eyes do work for M3, remember I posted a pic way back? and I just realized that S3 shares the unimesh thingy, so V3 eyes should fit her, I'll try this later and let you know. and what I meant about your new eyes, is that I kind of like the "fantastic" look a little better... actually I've found myself using more and more lately you old DOAeyes, the one for the p4 female and V2... I still use your maya doaeyes for my more important characters, but there's something about the simplicity of those old eyes that still attracts me more... the iris in your new eyes is awesome, I wouldn't change that a bit, but maybe I'd exaggerate a bit on the reflection, they look too diluted on the iris... then again, probably that's what you're aiming for, and probably you'll get more people into your eyes because they do look more realistic now, but all I'm saying is that I'd like to see them evolving into a more fantastic type of eyes rather than a realistic type of eyes... but then that's just me talking... here's a pic I did trying to revive posette, and of course, as with all my characters, I'm using the doanimeyes on them (somehow, doaeyes is shorter:)... well, let's keep in touch through this thread, as apparently it became a back room now.