Hey, coming along great S. New trial--I went to Photopaint and opened Eyecandy and did the 'weave' in b/w, resampled it to quite small, then used it for 'fill' in a 1000 x 1000. Used that as bump, used the noise on gold for tex--tried with and without reflection map. You are probably going to have to make a small grid--VERY small--then make it a seamless tile and large enough to cover the template (otherwise you will get 'stretch' marks). I found with some of these dresses--if you aren't going to be looking at the back and the side seams are more important to be 'smooth'-- that cylindrical mapping works better. Then, of course, you have to deal with the seam down the back unless you are very meticulous about getting the seams to match. Hmmm--just thinking out loud and looking at your post again--probably the different sized map affected the sizing--you will most likely have to actually make a tex map with the size you want 'where' you want it. What's someone called maclean doing in Italy?? S Sounds like a wonderful life though. Diane B/picnic