Hey, diane. Still at it, I see. You're tenacious! I don't have Eyecandy, but I'm sure there's something in Photoshop I can use. Yeah, I need a really small grid: Just have to multiply a map and re-sample it down to size, I guess. The formal's a much bigger map to cover. I want to get it right because if I post it, someone will look at the sides anyway. Might manage it in the next day or two. PS Someone called maclean is in the Italian Alps at 6,000ft because he couldn't take Milan any longer! Came here from Scotland years ago and like it too much to leave. Did fashion and music photography, and am now doing web design (that way I don't have to get off my ss!) Hey, if you like fashion, check out my site (free plug!) http://www.infinito.it/utenti/maclean You might like it. Anyway, someone called maclean is going to bed now! It's 2am here! Goodnight...and thanks maclean (jimmi)