heh, cool image... and yeah, we're going a bit off topic here... I understand about importing stuff into 3dsmax (I do have it), but I was not actually looking to know a body mass, but rather the weight of any given character... if there's no other way, then I'd have to figure the body mass, but i guess that's too much trouble for what i want to do... I guess I'll just go with the time-tested formula of the wild guess... until someone invents a "poser weight scale" or something...