I wouldn't take edriver's word very seriously. Recently, when someone said they were going to post Poser 4 to the Poser newsgroup, he pulled this same melodramatic "I'm leaving" message there, saying that I wasn't doing my job as a moderator by stopping this guy from posting it. If he'd done an instant of research before posting, he'd have known that the newsgroup doesn't HAVE a moderator, and that there isn't SQUAT anyone could do but report the pirate to his ISP. This is another case of him jumping to conclusions without bothering to check facts first. The difference is, this time he's "punishing" us for it by removing the "stuff he has generously made available for free". I don't mean to sound like I'm coming out blasting the guy, but before you go placing blame on folks, especially concerning something as serious as a virus, you should make sure you have your facts straight. When/if you DO decide to grace us again, edriver, I believe an apology is in order.