Kate, I visit Rendervisions all the time, and I use Netscape. Mind you, it's an up-to-date version of Netscape, but the site does work fine. I went to the site with Netscape 4.x (I think it's 4.7; I only keep it on my hard drive for testing purposes) and I see what you mean about the blank page. I didn't go through the code with a fine tooth comb, but there's a bug in NS4.x that prevents a page from displaying if there's an unclosed table tag somewhere. Perhaps that's the problem... I'll drop a note to Lady Cherry and she can look it over and see. Still, and I really do NOT want to be rude here, but when you use a browser from 1998 or so, you do kind of have to figure that a lot of stuff just won't work in it. That's no excuse for bad coding, but stuff like CSS, some forms of JavaScript, iFrames, etc. just plain won't work, because they hadn't been developed yet. That's just the way of technology. bonni

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