And don't be put off if you find the manual to be overwhelming at first. CL's Poser 5 manual has never been well received by a lot of users. Maybe I was fortunate here, as I bought my copy of P5 at a very reasonable price from a brand new user, who had found the software to be way too complicated for her. I say this because... after all this time, I'm only now beginning to digest the detailed Chapter 4 explanation of Cartesian co-ordinates (which is absolutely fundamental to 3d applications). However, when I think deeply about what CL is attempting to teach me... I have to say "Thank you" for taking such pains to explain (though I still don't pretend to fully understand... yet) Much of the manual seems to follow this same pattern, (i.e. it eventually makes a lot more sense after you've gained in experience). I personally am grateful that the manual doesn't just tell me which buttons to press (without any explanation as to why I'm pressing them... or the problems and exceptions that I might one day encounter).