Wow! Hi Scott - its truly an honor to have you here. I use only Mark Townsend's Apophysis in my fractals - almost always in conjunction with fractal layers generated by Ultrafractal. Flames are extremely beautiful in the luminence of their colors as stand alone images and I find them to be invaluable when used with UF fractals as texturing tools as well. A neat thing to be able to do with them would be to have the ability to zoom in on sections without losing density - though that is probably an Apophysis specific thing and not something inherent in the flames themselves(?). Rick