Ok, I get it now! The stability of VUE4Pro is what I'm talking about. Very bad on Panther. I have tried all versions of updates. But the good news is... This is AWESOME software, and decent documentation. Being a software professional, I must say that these guys have tried REALLY hard. My hat's off to them! Given that E-on just released a fix for VueEsprit for Panther, I withdraw my complaint!!! A fix for VuePro4 for Panther must be imminent, and I can't wait!! Anybody think I'll have better results on my G4/10.2.3? With Love-