Actually I'm not posting them simply to keep my bandwidth down. At 60 megs each, my sysadmin is getting cranky with me. My apologies if that came across as being rather frosty to Renderosity. I might post Simon in a bit. Right now I'm busy preparing to totally renovate my website. I hadn't planned on doing that for a few months but it seems that my timing has been accelerated all of a sudden like.