While I'm in the mood, here's another howler from Ornlu (that the RendoRag kept the intent of despite the pointless messing): "...ambient illumination in its true form- does not even exist..." Well, with the caveat that a "true form" of ambient illumination does not exist in any 3D rendering package (they're all just mathematical constructs, folks, there is no spoon) this statement is just plain wrong. It's hard to imagine how anyone who has followed the threads on True Ambience could make such a conclusion. It may be infuriatingly flawed and limited, it may use a different render process in Bryce than in other programs to come about - but it exists.