You didnt need to type all that out Spanki.. I happen to be quite knowledgeable in the area of computers and 3D hardware. I build my own systems, been following the 3D hardware scene since the S3 Virge3D days, and I am also an avid gamer. As I said in my correction, the 5950 does slightly edge out the 9800XT in some games.. However, one thing you should note from that review is dont get caught up in synthetic benchmarks (3DMark), and make comparisons based on them. For example, look at the 3DMark result for multitexturing. The Nvidia card has what looks to be a big lead: 493Mtexel/sec. But when you look at the score in a multitextured game like Quake3, it is hardly faster. That lead drops a lot when you turn on AA and AF. *A sign Nvidia hardware is not working very efficiently with that huge memory bandwidth lead (you can see the same thing in every test with AA and AF on). Move to a game like Unreal Tournament, which uses Direct3D (DX 8), and far more texture passes than Quake3 btw, now suddenly the 9800XT is ahead. How is that possible if the Nvidia card is faster at multitexturing situations? Hardware efficiency, drivers, etc, aka - real world performance, come into play. 3DMark is not a measure of real world performance and its figures for texturing do not translate to real world situations. It has also been proven by many sites that Nvidia's drivers were optimized explicitly for best performance in 3DMark. So much in fact, even Futuremark themselves said Nvidia was cheating, and game developers disclosed they had to make special optimizations to their games just to make it work right with Nvidia's hardware! So dont go by the results that meaningless benchmark gives. Another problem that Nvidia has faced lately is cheating in the image quality area. They took shortcuts in IQ to increase performance, but we dont need to get into that here as this has already gone well beyond anything to do with D|S. LOL BTW, dont get me wrong.. Im not some ATI freak or anything. Nvidia still has a better OpenGL implementation, ive been using Nvidia hardware since the TNT2, and I still use my trusty GeForce4 ti4600 (though it is showing its age these days lol).