The last I heard was Ian was in back in Livermore working on the family ranch. I live in Livermore and haven't run into him so he must be laying pretty low. Willow was still in Washington, had lost her job and was looking at moving closer to Seattle. I made a couple of small little V3 conforming things for her so she could finish a paid project... My impression was this was the only income she had coming in. This was like 3 or 4 months ago... Ed