First off Thank you Raven for finding these for us Pose-less people! I went to the site and grabbed some of the people, They are very good, only one problem. I downloaded them in 3ds format and when I opened them in Vue4 I got a message saying that they were obsolete and would not properly open, they opened ok, but in some very strange colors!! You have to go thru and change everything.. not a big deal but just something everyone should know. Thanks again!! Shiollie