Also, Macworld starts this week. :) I got a notice that the folks at Eovia are going to unveil something nifty regarding Poser 5 and Cararra 3. I always unzip to a separate folder and look over the readme. Then I use MacConverter and MacInstaller to place things in the areas I have selected for them. Even with DAZ products I'll try to do my own installation. I've heard that Vicki3 snarls things up, so if I ever get the third generation characters I'll have to let them install where they want to. :grumble: Part of the reason you should monitor the installation is that other packages may call upon certain basic textures or whatever to work. After the third Vicki-based character called out for the lash transparency, I got tired of hunting down where DAZ had hidden it... and unpacked the millenium people myself. Carolly