Thanks for the screenshot of the Atmosphere Editor! I was using the dropdown in what I think is known as the Materials Pallette, that goes up in the top right of the GUI(Next to where you note objects location. No I mean the file browser that comes up when you want to open a Vue4 file. Sometimes you can see previews of the file that is selected before you need to open them... I mean an Alpha Mask for compositing from within Photoshop. Thanks for the Render to Screen tip! Keyframes are another area I'm a bit lost at. I'm used to Poser and Bryce, they are so easy, I should expect Vue to not be to far behind, but I've not a grip on it. Another thing I'm stuck with is turning shadows off. I hope I do'nt need a new install, but I'll turn them off, click OK, open the dialog back up immediately, and find them turned back on! I found toggling down to 2% gets sticky enough to keep them off after about a half dozen tries, but there must be a simple explanation for this! I'm having trouble removing the shadows on his hips, from the belt. Though this scene actually has shadows turned off these still show? I've also found a flaw in the last WIP I ca'nt qiute think of how to fix. What is the horizon thickness known as. In Bryce it is your haze, but when I adjust this in this Vue4 scene only the lower(That wich is Mirrored by the ground plane) half of the horizon grows! And finally, gebe, where is that sand mat., I hav'nt found it yet.